The difference might surprise you. Elk, moose, kudu and similar large . Foot of the Big Belt Mountains near Townsend MT. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. Im shooting a 7 stw 1 in 8 twist ( ballistic twin to 28 nosler ) 190's at 3005 fps, and the 195's at 2985 fps both with under .5 moa accuracy. As you might guess, there isnt much trajectory/performance difference between the RUM and the Nosler. yea Im leaning more towards the 28 just cause I dont really want to fire form, I know its not the end of the world but just one more step. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. I wanted an every day backpacking Coues rifle that could do sheep, bears, caribou, goats and the occasional backpacking elk hunt if needed. factory 7mm Rem. I think if I was buying a hunting rifle, and just wanted to keep a few high quality boxes of factory ammo around, the I would go 7Rm. Trustpilot. ADG 300 Norma Magnum Brass. I love my 7 SAUM and would do it again. SAUM can be found on the Rifle Cartridge Page. You say it's long action. Full Member. However, if youre hoping to win a target shooting contest at 600 yards, the 3 inches less wind deflection and 4 inches less drop from the PRC give you a leg up. SAUM can be found on the . Alabusa Learning. Amazing bc too for the weight. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I have one on a 26" proof barrel. Anyone looking for really good dies call Whiddon and have them made. Creedmoor Sports $ 120.95 . . For perspective, this is 75 fps faster than most 175-gr. If you go with a hot 7mm, get one with a fairly heavy barrel contour. But with laser rangefinders one can easily compensate for the slightly greater drop of the 7mm Rem. Barrel life will also be lower than the other two. at the muzzle. I am very pleased I am shooting retumbo using adg brass which is excellent brass highly recommend, shooting 165 Gamechanger at 3075, 180 Berger right at 3000. Hodgdon reloading data for the 7mm WSM shows that the 140 grain Nosler Partition spitzer bullet can be driven to a MV of 2979 fps in front of 58.0 grains of H4350 powder. Mag. JavaScript is disabled. 12 Gauge 1". We use cookies to make your experience better. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. In older reloading books for the 7 rum is its hauling a$$ compared current data. The 7 SAUM is a short-action, magnum cartridges similar to the 7 WSM. Neither caught on, but American shooters were certainly beginning to recognize the potential for 7mm cartridges. As the .30-06 Springfield has a .473 case head and uses the .470 +/- bolt face, any cartridges list on the above two bolt face diameter and action length database charts above, that also use the .470 +/- bolt face, and have a COAL of 3.34 or shorter, will work with .30-06 actions. Teddy Roosevelt was so impressed that he used the 757 as a basis for what became the .30-06 Springfield. 92 grs. It may not display this or other websites correctly. A major part of that depends on rifling twist. Cartridge: 7 RUM. So Im going through this same thing Are you wanting to run a shorter barrel? 7mm Rem. Another indicates 74-grains of Hodgdon 870 will churn up 2,954 fps. Mag. Mag. This calls for a light rifle. 7mm brass is simple to find and the caliber is an absolute hammer on deer/elk. The shot prior a half grain less powder had minimal pressure signs. But then none have put it all together quite like Hornadys new 7mm PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge.) Then Remington blew the doors wide open with their new 7mm magnum chambered in their equally new and affordable M700 rifles. As the name suggests, this round is aimed squarely at accurate, long range performance. HOWEVER, I don't follow the logic of having to use a 26" barrel if you go the Nosler route. Nosler brass also undergoes the rigorous quality control that premium Nosler bullets have experienced for over 60 years. Just have the barrel throated so you can load those big pills way out there, to make room for more powder. Before this barrel I had a 7 SAUM and I wasn't happy with how it fed from the DTA magazines. Thanks, BnG. I have a variety of options on this, as I am planning to do this on a DTA, for which I have both .535 and .585 bolts, and the DTA mags are pretty generous in regard to OAL. ADG 338 Remington Ultra Mag Brass. Most hunters who resist target practice can get a lifetime of good accuracy out of these 7mms. As for the 7 Rem Mag vs. the 7 PRC, the trajectory data indicates there is no appreciable difference out to 400 yards and not a heck of a lot more at 500 yards, so most hunters wont realize a major advantage with the PRC version. The Nosler loads were developed in Remington cases with Remington primers, and chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. Of course, this was an overreaction, but at the time millions were convinced the new 7mm was the do-all-end-all of deer/elk/moose and even bear hunting cartridges. I made the same decision not long ago and went 7mm RM, although barrel life was a consideration for me, which it probably wouldn't be on a strictly hunting rig. Great performance, easy to neck a case down and a simple bushing change gets you great dies. Furthest down, around the primer pocket, the brass should be firm. Qty: Add to cart . The 7 SAUM offers better performance than the 300 Win Mag in a package that is almost as small as the 6.5 Creedmoor. New member question. Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box N N2TRKYS Well-Known Member Joined Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. The completed case holds 90 grains of water with our 175-grain boattail spire point bullet seated. This precision does not mean the 7mm PRC is a long range target round only. and exactly the same claim is made for the 7mm WSM. SAUM shows that 56.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive their 140 grain bullets to a MV of 2943 fps, and 60.0 grains of IMR 4350 is good for a MV of 3146 fps. After all the smoke and toasted barrels cleared, I came to my own conclusion that the 7-300 win mag was the winner when all aspects are considered. needing 1.3 mils for a 10 mph full value wind. This is a long-range dream cartridge for sure. Been looking for a while. Heres what a trajectory table looks like for the 180-gr. $ 87.00 - $ 145.00. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. If you want a shorter barrel, look into the 7 SAUM, 7 RM and even the 7-08 , they'll all get it done nicely. burning 61 grains Reloder 22, 28 Nosler, 3,200 fps from 26 bl., 88-grs. More than 1,900 ft-lbs of energy at 700 yards. Im going to run a tikka action/stock trigger with spring upgrade with a 22in carbon barrel and a light weight scope. ELD-Match, Noslers 185-gr. This just-released (October 26, 2022) cartridge has the potential to become the 7mm Remington Magnum of the 21st century. Also note that some guys are reporting pressure issues at speeds other are reporting work with the 28. Im in the market to start a new build. John makes custom dies not just what is listed. First, notice that kinetic energy remains above the elk killing minimum of 1,500 ft-lbs at 700 yards. Moose by the dozens have fallen to the 7mm Rem. The belt has never been an issue for me. I set my dies to headspace off the shoulder and forget about the belt. I would expect the 300 PRC to mirror the performance. It had impressed its power upon our troops in Cuba under fire from Spanish Mausers in 1898. Winchester claims a muzzle velocity (MV) of 3,225 fps with a 140 grain bullet for their 7mm WSM cartridge; the claimed muzzle energy (ME) is 3,233 ft. lbs. Trustpilot. Overall cartridge length of the 7mm RUM is 3.6 inches, right there with a .375 H&H Magnum. Hornadys 7mm PRC with its high B.C. Part of this is due to the .40 inches of freeborn Remington builds into its 7mm RUMs to minimize chamber pressures on ignition. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. I think the 7saum is here to stay. Retained mass helps maintain momentum. at the muzzle. Pros and Cons of the 7mm PRC These are some impressive numbers. I also see the counter that belted cases are reloaded just like non belted and it is a non issue. Not to concerned about the barrel life, you cant expect Ferrari performance and get Prius fuel mileage haha theres always a trade off, I think a mild load in a 28 might be the best of both worlds. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm SAUM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.825", maximum case length 2.035". It may not display this or other websites correctly. Versitile and with the right twist rate can really launch some High BC pills out there. If you dont own a 7mm of any kind and want one strictly for hunting, you might as well get the PRC version. Mag. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but underrated standard velocity cartridges. Mag. I have a 7 LRM in a DTA, I've been pretty happy with it. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. I'm currently hunting with a 7rm shooting 168 Berger vlds at 3000 fps. needed another shot behind the head to kill it. The additional reach is tempting, but Id pay the price with a 26-inch, fairly heavy barrel. Assuming that would be as illogical as assuming the 30-06 Springfield, 308 Winchester, and 223 Remington are strictly military cartridges. Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. bullet wins the wind deflection category. And heres a top load for the 175-gr. More significant are the chamber dimensions, which are tighter than those of most traditional, 20th century hunting cartridges. Bullet size is another one of the other important differences between the 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag. Another vote for 7 rem mag. Specifically, the larger diameter .284 bullets used by those 7mm cartridges have about 5% more frontal surface area (also known as cross sectional area) than the .277 bullets used by the 6.8 Western (.0633 vs .0603 square inches). #1 Postby Marty Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:38 am. The best part is that the recoil is super easy compared to a 300. Trustpilot. without laser assistance. One of the most prominent differences between the two is that the 28 Nosler fires a bullet diameter of 7mm or 0.284" while the 300 PRC fires the . The lighter, shorter 7mm bullets are preferred in these short case magnums. Im using Winchester brass, and it's showing no signs of wear after 8 or 9 reloads. Reactions: Zeroit. I also use and like my .284 Win on a long action. Mag. My hunting partner just bought a CA Ridgeline TI in 6.5PRC. ADG 28 Nosler. I dont reload but i see this statement a lot. This friction-free bullet jump allows it to break inertia more easily. Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. Links to technical data and drawings for the newly SAAMI accepted Cartridge and Chamber designs not yet included in SAAMI Standards are listed below. Few, if any, cartridges shoot as flat and hit as hard at distance as the 7mm Weatherby. Minuteman. Mine is a 26" 1-9 twist non saami 280 ackley. Brass 1 - 12 of 73 Products Sort By Position 220 Swift Premium Brass (50ct) $108.95 6.5mm PRC Bulk Unprepped Brass (100ct) Out of stock $135.49 6.5mm PRC Premium Brass (50ct) Out of stock $118.95 27 Nosler Premium Brass (25ct) My vote would be 7RM as well. And it will likely penetrate farther because more of its mass rides in the long shank behind its nose. Or just step up to the 7 SAUM and run 180s if you want more weight. Additionally you can tune your load so accuracy difference go out the window. JavaScript is disabled. 8tw 195 or maybe the new 190 atips. ADG 7 SAUM Brass. A bigger concern might be barrel heating and subsequent wandering. Thin barrels tend to distort slightly with heat, opening up groups. Another vote for 280ai if building a light weight hunt rig all the horsepower needed close to 7rm but standard action with room for an extra round. 7mm mag has stood the test of time. Just 5 inches of drop at 400 yards and 6.8 inches of wind deflection. Mid-size 7mm cartridges like 7x57 Mauser, 7mm-08 Rem., 284 Win., and 280 Rem. I have both the 300 and 7mm SAUM, the 300 is on a model 7 action and the 7mm a standard 700SA. My vote would be for the 7 saum. It made sense for me. for my brand of hunting. The 28 isn't blowing the doors of the MAX. Running a 7mm like others velocities are really easily to get. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. Worth considering. Either way a shorter fat case will be better With a shorter barrel. Thanks. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . The load is easy on brass and accuracy is excellent, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box. Definitely go 26" on the barrel. Instead, the Hornady-developed RCM case was used to produce the 6.5 PRC. Three quid k shots can overheat a thin barrel and turn a 1 MOA rifle into a 2 MOA. Fill this brass case with smokeless powder instead of water and, according to some handloading guides, 62.5 grains of Reloder 22 should shove a 175-grain bullet from a 24-inch barrel 2,870 fps. A 24" nosler should still outrun a 24" rem mag (all other things equal). ADG 300 PRC Brass. Here, the hardness is nearly twice that of around the neck. and a high B.C. Essentially, 7mm PRC rifles will be manufactured with match-grade chambers. Almost overnight the seven em em was on the lips of American hunters. The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. Crap I don't remember, I'd have to pull a bullet, I've ran H1000, Retumbo and lots of R33, that load was H1000 but I only have the speed in AB. It's an extraordinary caliber that has proven itself for decades upon decades, and just in the last few years has hit new strides thanks to the SAAMI standardization of the caliber, because of it's time-tested popularity. If youre going to tackle an elk or mule deer with a 180-grain bullet at around 2,900 fps, the 7mm version in that bullet weight will shoot flatter, drift less, and put more energy on target than the .308 version. Mag. Interesting. If your just hunting without extended range sessions I'g use this over the 7rem mag. Creedmoor Sports $ 119.95 . Adding two inches of barrel to the 24 inches of our 7mm Rem. Piecing together a rifle build but havent settled on what I want to chamber it in. John Whiddons dies are the nicest Ive ever used. If you go the Nosler route, look into the freebore for the barrel. bullet have what it takes for hunting anything short of dangerous game. I can't tell you how many cartridge choices I've settled on, only to change my mind again and again. In 2001 Remington looked to the old .404 Jeffery case for its ultra-speedy 7mm. So how do you choose among these three? Reloading the 28 is also not inexpensive. But if you want to win long range target competitions, the 7 PRC is your best bet. Sounds like from above that ADG is making 7 MAX brass, which is what Rich told me last year would be happening. It will never be as popular as a 6.5PRC or 28nosler, but it has a purpose. The 28 Nosler is in the 7mm Rifle Ammo family. You could beat it by loading that same bullet in the 28 Nosler, but youre still facing the barrel burn out issue. With a 160 grain bullet the Winchester figures are 2990 fps and 3176 ft. lbs. Will be running as a long action so no worries about magazine issues. I would also add that if you are not going to optimize the rifle to get the most out of the 28 Nosler just stick with the tried and true 7mm Rem mag. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I like the 6.5 PRC because I think ammo/brass will have more staying power where the 7mm SAUM is all but obsolete (don't stone me for that). Handloaders can find .284" bullets (the diameter that all 7mm cartridges digest) as light as 100 grains, perfect for pasture rodents, coyotes, and even deer. All Rights Reserved. LRHTB. It's often put head-to-head with other popular calibers like the 7mm Rem. Vintersalg: Opptil 60 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr Mag., 270 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, and 300 H&H Magnum looked all but washed up. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. My conclusion: if you already own any 7mm magnum for hunting, (7mm WSM, 7mm SAUM, 7mm RM, 7mm LRM, 7mm STW, 7mm Wby. To help you understand the flow of energy, check out the chart-. The only advantage I'd see with the SAUM is using a short action. Som en stor omfattende nettbutikk er hjemsol forpliktet til hjelpe deg med skape et stt liv med vre utskte produkter. How does the 280 AI do with 180 grain bullets compared to the 7mm SAUM? 28 Nosler offers excellent performance but brass is spendy and availability is hit or miss . Instead they seem to be shooting for the ideal balance among MV, tolerable recoil, wind deflection, and precision accuracy. Carefully spaced shots (dont overheat the barrel) always extend life, as does each shooters accuracy demands. Mag. I have hunted with a 7mm Rem Mag and a 7mmSTW. But they didnt shorten anything. Following since I want to do the exact same thing. load hitting 2,970 fps and a 28 Nosler hitting 3211fps with the same bullet. With RL26 I stuck a case in the chamber @ 3150fps. Both were introduced in 2001. So far on order, The Sherman requires case prep and fire forming which is rounds off of your barrel life unless you buy a hydroforming die $$$$$, Caliber = internal diameter of a barrel bore, outside diameter of a bullet. You must log in or register to reply here. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . It slightly exceeds the ballistic performance of the short-action 7mm SAUM on the right. I go back and forth in my head 1000 times on choices, then I will decide on what I know that I want, then I'll see something else and go back to the drawing board. Ron Spomer The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. The SAUM will be built on a long action. ELD-Match zeroed for MPBR on a 6-inch target zone. We have killed over a half dozen deer over 850 yards with the 195 berger so i know it performs well on game (never lost a deer with the 195 even with one having poor shot placement). RDF, or Bergers 190-gr. You are using an out of date browser. Id suggest a similar plan. Metallic Reloading Rifle Brass Rifle Brass Rifle brass is made for almost every conceivable cartridge, from 223 brass and 308 brass to older offerings like 30-40 Krag brass and even one of the newest, 6.5 Creedmoor brass. I have both chambered up on the same rifle, the 28 is about cooked so spun up a 7 MAX and maybe in a month I'll get time to pull the trigger more on it, fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. But, were I young and tough and starting from scratch, I might be lured into the .28 Nosler. Ryan Pierce is a gunsmith, Piercison Rifles, and he is the first person I saw that was playing with the extra freebore. Mag., the 264 Win. Id be set for all North American game plus African plains game right up to 1,800-pound eland. In 1962 the 7mm Rem. Had same dilemma, went with 7RM because even during the great Obama ammo shortage you could always find 7RM ammo. Newer calibers tend to fade quickly these days. Im going to run the 7 Saum Im thinking. The 280AI is a great cartridge, as is the plain old 280 Remington. The LRM feeds perfectly, much better than the SAUM. Well, i was leaning towards the 28 Nosler, but now I'm seriously considering the 7mm RM. Unless you are shooting the 180's at long range, the 7 Rem is enough gun. . For Connaught we moved to 7mm SAUMs and in preparation of going to that FCWC I got . Running 8twist Proof 168s run flat, 5.2mils the other morning at 912y. This is Not a New Thing. Consider that already own a 270 Win with a 22" barrel. Trustpilot. And thats part of the reason 7mms are so popular. The 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge is a long-action centerfire rifle cartridge designed to shoot 180 grain bullets at 2,950 fps. 7rm for me. You are using an out of date browser. When in doubt, pull the 338 out! ADG Brass. Will the 156 take down an elk, sure but I would prefer to have a .284 caliber in a biased opinion. This will be a custom built hunting rifle(deer and elk) and will need to be carried long distances. Its designed to send long, sleek, high B.C. I wish there was more 7SAUM options, I feel there's a gap in the market. Most people are getting sub half moa. ADG makes 28 nosler brass for a great option. Engineers made three modifications that ensured popularity: they shortened the case to fit standard-length actions. Like most of our early magnums, this is based on the belted .375 H&H Magnum case. Recoil with a brake should be not bad at all even with the light rifle. For you guys that have had both with do you prefer. No more than 7-pounds finished and field ready. Could run the sendero lite or a bartlein magnum sporter I bet Saum simply because its a 7 and you said elk. The 175 ELDX load Ive been using is so good no reason to try newer powders or bullets. Full-magnum action long. And at sensible hunting distances even a basic MPBR hunter should have find more than 90 percent of his shooting opportunities covered by the Rem Mag. I also kicked around the idea of 7max, but can always go that route later. Those are some impressive numbers. 7 RUM Choose an option 6.5 PRC 6.5 SAUM 7 SAUM 7 REM MAG 7 RUM 28 NOSLER 300 WIN MAG 300 NORMA MAG 300 PRC 300 RUM 30 NOSLER 338 LAPUA 338 RUM 338 EDGE 300 WSM 375 RUM 7 REM MAG BRIGHT 338 RUM BRIGHT 30 NOSLER BRIGHT. His bolt-action rifle was chambered for the confusing .275 Rigby. Clearly the 7mm Rem. haha The good part is it's kinda hard to go wrong these days being there are so many great choices. 195s topped out @ 2950 w/ N570 using a drop tube to fit powder, that primer pocket was loose after. 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