This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. I haven't seriously considered joining a branch since my accident in 2003, but it still crosses my mind from time to time. Unless someone wants to send the mods proof of their M.D., and dig into medical history, you have no business declaring whether or not anyone's medical condition is non-serious, important, real, or anything else. Discomfort after surgery is minimal, and vision recovery usually takes place in 1 to 2 days. Further, patients often don't ask what their diagnosis is--the patient is focused on their problems and not the administrivia in a medical record. If the answer is YES, congrats shipmates just got injured or even died on your watch. (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). : r/USMCboot. I plan on waiting the 6 months. I had the surgery in august of 2014. You're still not getting it. Unfortunately, she needed to go to sick call several times for persistent coughing. Some background, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was younger and thus have ADHD and have a prescription for but find that I dont really need it for things other than standardized tests which is not really al that ADHD related Im just a bad test taker. Never got caught. I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. Don't even mention the scar unless they ask then keep it minimal "that was just from when I was a kid" if they ask more "yeah I was biking and fell" simple is good. How do recruiters get medical records to MEPS for a med read? I swear I've met more dudes getting chaptered in the infantry for mental problems (like a few guys are mentally insane) than I ever imagined. What I love is everyone parrots RECRUITERS ALWAYS LIE. They don't pull up your records unless you need a clearance or unless it comes up. When I went to meps, I went into a room with a doctor, he made me strip down to my underwear and told me to slowly spin in a circle twice, so they will most likely notice any major scars. My dad said hell no, lost 60lbs and 6 years later has had zero knee pain. Hello, thank you everyone for this forum, it has been incredibly helpful. Privacy Policy. The paper requests numbers from the pre-surgery, 90 days after pre-surgery, and a month after that. If you can not look at yourself in the mirror in the morning it was the wrong decision. You need to disclose it. Same with another section. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. It is not the recruiters job to get you into the military, nor is it MEPS' job to disqualify you. I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. So its been about 2 weeks now and have been too scared to talk to him. He hadn't told them he had lasik. 03-10-09, 06:54 PM #10. redsox1804. ; and he asked my friend if he had ever smoked pot. Did I Lie at MEPS??! Also it is about what job that you are going to do as a Officer. Penalties for False Enlistment As stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign, lying at MEPS regarding medical or mental health history is a terrible idea with serious implications. My recruiter is telling me that some things are best left unsaid. For instance another friend went to meps and when he was doing the eye portion he was wearing contacts and the guy checking him didn't even notice. My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. The criminal background check and security clearance investigations can and do find sealed records. Any advice? Our advice is consistently not to lie at MEPS. Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. MEPS' job is the same as the recruiter's job. It also helps prevent mods from profiling and censoring. Idk if the policy is 1 or 3 years, Ive encountered both. While there, he experienced the emotionally stressful and physically demanding environment of being a Trainee at Lackland AFB. It may not display this or other websites correctly. One guy kept getting ahold of his prrsonal items somehow and got caught playing a saxophone in the barracks. I would say lying at meps is a low risk high reward type of deal. Went to MEPS the next morning and everything was normal until medical debriefing. I lied at MEPs about multiple things, I don't think it has affected my ability to be a soldier. Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. The lesson is that we need to make it impossible for people to lie. Its in your best interest to get through MEPS. Texted him asking if he got the paperwork and he said he did (at this point I knew a commander came in and talk to the two and now I know he is pissed). Yes, you need to be caught in the lie, but that isn't as difficult as you might think. I feel like this is a test so see if I won't bother to accrue some letters regardless and I'm not sure what to do. I'm guessing you're done. Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. Once you have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter and have discussed your options, your recruiter will set an. Always good advice. You're assuming her recruiter didn't know With the rise of electronic medical records it'll become extremely hard to lie for meps. It seems like the most important mission of the army right now its safety and risk management, and with that in mind, it doesn't seem even remotely worth the risk. By logging into your account, you agree to our. Quite a few of the guys in my squadron had a screw lose. I informed my recruiter of this incident and he told me not to mention it to MEPS because it won't come back in a police check being so recent. That sent me down a long road of having to get a waiver for something that had no current medical basis and was utter medical fraud. Should I lie and say the scar is from an accident like jumping over a fence that needed stitches? I realize you were told to lie, but you should have refused. It may be at MEPS, it may be later in your career. I genuinely had not considered that the way I'm acting could be considered morally suspect, or aggravating to the recruiter. He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Questions about joining the Marines? That's just the way it happens. I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. Because of his failure to disclose his medical history at MEPS and it's discovery while he was on Medical Hold, he was administratively discharged from the Air Force without completing BMT for Fraudulent Enlistment. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. Then to delete your comments, simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, scroll down as far as possible (hint: use RES), and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. He. Doctors said I had asthma growing up, my recruiter said don't mention it, he was probably jumping to conclusions. After a long conversation with my doc he said there is no way for them to find out unless you tell them. lie at MEPS? If you would like to protect yourself, add the Chrome extension TamperMonkey, or the Firefox extension GreaseMonkey and click Install This Script on the script page. Its like a doctor told my dad he was going to need immediate knee surgery. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. Am I? The main difference between them is that with LASIK, a corneal flap is created and replaced, and with LASEK, the top layer of the cornea is loosened, moved, and reattached. This is for prior service and new applicants. Though my friend told me his exam consisted of a puff eye test, exam for glaucoma screening. Maybe from 2001-2007 or so she could. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. So what are the lessons from these stories? and was it a mistake for being honest at MEPS? I don't want to waste the time of past professors and employers if it doesn't matter. Good luck to you. Finally, he was incorrectly interpreting the questions from his recruiter and MEPS to what he believed his own history was. Let's all throttle back a bit. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. . She said a recent one had about 30 pages regarding the procedure. First, you are the one liable WHEN you get busted lying. Disclose EVERYTHING. If your eyes are otherwise healthy, the services will usually waive up to 5 diopters of cylinder (astigmatism). The wrist has handled push ups every other day since I was cleared to get back to it and my eyes are perfect, but I'll know for sure at 6 months. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Do not encourage lying. The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . One of the worst things in the world is getting a fraudulent enlistment discharge after making it through 2 months of boot. Has "just asking for a friend" EVER worked, even if true? When did the AF start allowing pilots that have had LASIK? Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. His family supported the cousin and were part an intensive family counseling program for suicide prevention, however this had a strong impact on our young man. First, you didn't believe your OR so you called his boss who said the same thing, and then you come here looking for validation of the opposite advice. Do you think the risk of getting shit bags and future suicides is worth the chance that one of them might be decent? It indicates, "Click to perform a search". Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The suicide counselor recommended he also consider seeing his own counselor. If people can lie about weed I dont see any moral dilemma about you lying about ADHD. And you'll be sidelined forever. For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Not disclosing information at MEPS - Advice Needed. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. What should I do. Im in the same boat, the waiver is an easy one as long as you have a doctors note saying youre fine to be off medication, and being successful for 1-3 years off the medication. They don't understand this stuff. I didn't want to throw anybody the bus just want the correct paperwork to be done because it would take a google search to find all that medical stuff on me and I would like to work in government, What do I do? As a result, his history of mental health wasn't assessed by MEPS. and our Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. Below are abstractions of a true stories. I was at SOI-West last summer. Seriously folks, stop with the medical determinations. Learning has occurred - give it time to sink in. You might think to yourself, "How could he not know that he needed to disclose this information?" I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. Though would documentation from a psychologist count as documentation from a doctor bc I dont know how familiar doctor at a hospital would be with something related to a different field of medicine. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. Is your condition a liability to yourself or others? The military is used to this, and they really don't care down the road. 48.8K. See TheBeneGesseritWitch's guide on Paths to become an Officer. Lying will. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Seems ridiculous that I had the surgery over a year ago and this is the only thing stopping me from getting processed in MEPs. This is my reaction as I am. So if you do lie and something goes wrong at buds, they do have the right to dig through your medical history and they will probably find out about the surgery and lasik. x10 bus middlesbrough to newcastle price. Well today I reserved an 11x op 40 contract with plans to go to MEPS Tues/Wed. JavaScript is disabled. Lying on your SF-86 is an aspect of personal conduct, and deliberately falsifying or omitting information prevents investigators from getting the full picture of who you are and how you have conducted yourself thus far. When you're an officer and in a time-sensitive situation where lives are on the line, do you really think you have time to triple check? I got disqualified for disclosing a medical issue. I just finished MEPS after having LASIK.I had to provide all medical documentation from the surgery (pre-op, post-op information, etc.) Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? The TI took it away from him and then a few days later he got ahold of it again and was playing the thing on the ledge outside the window on the 3rd floor of the barracks. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I think the lesson here is not to tell people to disclose everything, becausethey won't. Second, I got a ganglion cyst removed last summer. As above: the truth is easy to remember, keep consistent and coordinate with others. They only care in the beginning because they don't want to waste money on you for "XYZ" reason for processing, no matter how bullshit it is. 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