The enemy of God is cunning and can put words or thoughts in your mind that, being nearly correct, discourage further study on that topic because you think youve gotten it straight from God. Love God, Love yourself and Love each other. Yet, they are ignored, as, apparently, are the canonized scriptures such as the Bible, BOM, and D&C. They mean well so it doesnt occur to them that odd and peculiar can be pretty damn good. What would you people say to someone who, years ago, received very specific revelation on how to cure a vaccine injured child (think "Alma Smith" type revelation - if you don't know the Alma Smith story, look it up)? On February 14th, podcaster Mike Stroud dropped a bombshell. Dont be afraid. While it is true that we teach of visions and angelic ministrants and such we also teach of the adversarys counterfeits as well and the imperative of learning to discern between deception and Godly instruction. Caring and love. Log In. There was also no reason to test the spirits as the author accuses. I feel very sad for him! She only came to tell him about this vision she had. Third, Stroud continued to espouse ideas that appear to be influenced by the end-times book Visions of Glory. That flow from fountains pure. Welcome to my YouTube channel! His original analysis has been studied by students of the scriptures in over 130 countries worldwide, and is included in his first book - A Remnant Shall Return first published in 2015. Evan. Both are tools to measure the truth of something. Conflicting values is nothing new. That suggested the possibility that he knew what the grounds were and might have told you. It should also be noted that opposition quickly mobilized when Stroud began his podcasts last November. Stroud most definitely does not set himself up as a leader or prophet of any kind. It seems like he worked really hard to avoid overt mention of the inappropriate teachings from his first series. I can assure you that Mikes Priesthood leaders and many people in his ward and Stake have had serious concerns about his teachings long before I ever wrote that letter. Actually I know of one of Kimberlys associates who flat out disagreed with this very quote during a social media discussion. What is told to your mind might be from God, might not be. Funny enough, the Church released a new resource for seminary and institute instructors last August on false revelation. Have you read A Course in Miracles? And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things. There is a reason why Heavenly Father has given us this miraculous gift because there is small portions of truth found everywhere and absolute truth is only found in Christ. Also known as Micheal Rush. Again, if the idea is that moving in that direction will avoid schism or retain members, its not at all obvious to me that those changes would help. Its mostly just a lot of fluff with not much meat to satisfy the arguments. But if you take a higher altitude view, there are a number of changes that could be conservative by some definition. Disqus Notifications Not Working, Your email address will not be published. One does not expect everyone to recognize such but we should be prudent enough to listen to those who we might think were well apprised of discerning Good and Evil. JR sorry you think my response is inadequate. No, although I feel sure. Where are the stories of single mothers working desperately to provide food for their children, even to the point of offering their bodies to men of power who exercise unrighteous dominion? I have enjoyed reading all of the comments. Ill have to look into it. To what end? The newly-confirmed couple was seen leaving the Caribbean island of St. Barts together after several days soaking up the sun. Strouds initial run of podcasts began in February 2016 and ended in November 2017. Were it up to me I would leave some roles unfilled rather than put uninspired, unworthy persons in there. - by Michael B Rush Free Download - See the Analyzed Differences Between The Last Days Timeline and A Remnant Shall Return - Click Here Michael B Rush wrote this book as a Michael B. While the church doesn't regularly provide information about excommunication or resignation, those listed here have made such information public. Its okay to work with these things as long as the Zion initiate acknowledges them for the illusion that that are. If these teachings are wrong, then God is dead and so is his church. Fear of being deceived effectively stops you. I quite like Michael Rush. So Im going to love. If this lady really had a Second Comforter experience, why does she have to confirm it through Mike Stroud? So I anticipate future change to be more of the same. There are a number of other attempts to emphasize certain doctrines that are more conservative than not. Thats my kind, naturally . The items in the verse refer to tools, the line is a snap line to get things straight. Seems like there must be more to the story. That said, I cant subscribe to his reasoning of Isaiah 28 from the video posted. Mike Stroud: We are all learning and doing the best we can given the circumstances of our life. Its this kind of fluffy, fear mongering, reaching for the stars conclusions that made the document so difficult to read. Rather, he continually and fervently directs listeners to seek the spirit, keep the commandments, follow the prophets, study the scriptures, attend the temple, ponder, pray, fast, and serve one another. I sort of get what you are saying, but to say it you seem to strawman the actual church position (as I understand it to be). We have information on 910-692-9945, including Michael B Rush's name, address, and background checks with criminal records. by Trucker August 20th, 2021, 5:03 am, Post The truth is they dont really know much about it themselves, aside from what theyve heard from other spooks and online sources. So what are you going to do about it? I think his cognitive dissonance is almost to a breaking point. If it isnt we might as well stay home on the Sabbath ,and watch the telly and drink beer. Sounds like you agreed with some things I saidand some not or at least the terminology. The part of my life most closely parallel to your description was in the Navy in Alaska where I had plenty of time for scripture study, prayer, but more importantly an environment where nature was pristine outside the barracks of course. If it were, it would be HIS love, not mine. While I still dont know the specific basis of the determination of apostacy, your comment provides some context in addition to those few podcasts, Mary Anns article, and Bellamys comments. Thank you Mary Ann. That is the only dominion that can bring about eternal life. by ransomme August 21st, 2021, 12:12 am, Post and Sis. If you've read any of Michael's books, you know you're in for a treat. In modern times we are seeing Kimberly and her associates making the same claim. But not everyone like her. First, Stroud got specific when describing a process to commune with heavenly beings. This one was not difficult at all to discern the authors deception. There are curious minds around here (other than mine) who would like to know, as they dont understand the decision. i quickly learned that I was already ahead in scripture study of anyone nearby to ask, and that asking some questions caused alarm in my home teacher. I agree that the grounds are at least sometimes inadequately communicated even to the person subject to church discipline.. 281 likes. One time I asked the Lord, Lord am I traveling at night? .And he said, yes. And I said, I dont know it. He said, I know. That was it. Ive had plenty of dealings with Kimberly and her associates on social media. But also, the younger often poopoo such things, even to the point of fear and denigration. So what exactly is the fruit of Mike Strouds podcasts? The Chaplain wrote a complaint in the base newsletter about people preferring to go to the mountains on the Sabbath, which included me. Still, this whole matter with Mike Stroud has been very disheartening. Some of the garbage they sell slays me. There more from the doc that could be discussed. 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It was inappropriate to teach that people should seek to receive priesthood ordinations outside of the ordained channels found within the Church, and that priesthood healings and ordinances should be practiced using a prescribed format and that they can be performed over the phone. They are trained to be smarter, tactically superior and technologically advantaged - Melbourne's answer for a cutting edge trend in policing worldwide. "No Pain, No Game". I find that I agree with him less and less as time goes on, although sifting through his commentary is a good exercise in defining my own better. Guilt. Persist in teaching as Church doctrine information that is not Church doctrine after they have been corrected by their bishop or a higher authority. Where there is fear there is uncertainty/darkness. He thought his own wisdom was worth more than his membership in the Lords true church. In the process he talked about how the secret combinations had stolen the election from Trump (clearly not something anyone in LDS leadership would say). The Gospel topics essays are a mixed bag. Despite his constantly bearing testimony of the brethren he read the B of M like Nibley did ie condemning the Gentiles and making the case ( which most agree with) that we LDS are the Gentiles discussed in the B of M. In his podcast on the definition of Gentiles he discusses 2 Nephi 28 and effectively says that when Nephi sees that they have ALL gone out of their way ( 2 Nephi 28;11) or Moromon 8;380 why have ye polluted the holy church of god he is talking about us in our day. Ezra Taft Benson - Civic Standards for the Faithful Saints - start at min mark 11:30. Im a big fan of moderation and pluralism, but I continue to see a lot of talk about what the Church obviously should do. My response: Rush was the first LDS scholar to accurately decipher the prophetic writings of Ezra now known as Ezras Eagle. I pray for them. Stroud said it almost feels like your being drawn upward. Artists, Actors, and Entertainment Figures. Michael served a mission for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Chile, Osorno - where he loved both the people and the breathtaking landscapes. I'm hoping he'll see this and come here and elaborate, since he disabled comments on the video. Rush A Remnant Shall Return - Paperback & Audio Bundle $50 $29.99 Sale Michael B. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Mike Stroud set aside the counsel of God which was offered to him by the Lords servants called to minister to his children on earth. The job of church leaders is to try to lead the Church by the Spirit. Christ visiting hundreds and thousands of people at the same time at the temple in Bountiful with rings of fire around the children andgranting translation to the 3 Nephites. I think part of the disconnect here is what constitutes a moderate/liberal/progressive change. The final conclusions of the Ezra's Eagle prophecy takes us to the restoration of the US Constitution. I am wondering if I could get your comment, (off record of course) re a member named James T. Prout. They can appoint themselves to be teachers but no one else can. No one in the church called them to write up that online doc. This is youre basic McCarthyist style, witch accusing, intimidation tactic that is used to try and gain total control over perception and the situation. Joel Rush, Marla Rush, Brandi Rush, Reanna Creech and Natalie Castleberry, and many others are family members and associates of Michael. What Does Eh Mean In Texting, by ransomme August 20th, 2021, 3:44 pm, Post The pages in that book after my daughter was murdered helped my heart to forgive and let go and for that I am forever grateful for his words he shared. That America was prophecied 2600 years ago and it's fate was already chosen. MICHAEL B FITZGERALD. by keeprunning August 19th, 2021, 9:29 pm, Post Now I havent followed Rowe at all, but I understand her to be conservative, focusing on preparing for the end times. All you have to do just read what was actually said and the authors deception is right there. The 3 Eagle Head identification could have several different meanings, The 2 wings (Right and Left) identification, The Lion's timing of when it comes to "save the Saints", The deeper proof behind "Why Herbert Hoover". [Nope.] The whole thing is very good, but if you're in a hurry scroll over to 22 minutes. Where they went? But the only way anyone can know the answer to your question is if they were in the room with the SP o and HC.In my experience even the letter announcing the hearing is very ambiguous and of course there is never any formal announcement for the rationale for the decision. Alfred Knopf, 1951. Despite my reservations about Mikes teaching, I have far more about his accusers and their methods. The BYU honor code itself was the result of a conservative change, so changes to restore some of the status quo ante are hardly progressive. by ransomme August 20th, 2021, 3:50 pm, Post I dont know but apparently some confusion and many paths to many trees of life. Use left/right arrows to navigate the slideshow or swipe left/right if using a mobile device. He believed that it was to benefit the modern-day descendants of Lehi, who are assigned to the tribe of Manasseh: I believe that the majority of the tribe of Manasseh are Spanish speakers. (Podcast 08: 1 Nephi 5-7, abt 41:51) In January, Stroud asked listeners for help to get translated Spanish (and Portuguese) podcasts into the hands of those who could benefit from them. As I have looked at the Ezra's Eagle prophecy from the apocrypha directly, I have noted many additional insights in The Last Days Timeline as I pondered Ezra's Eagle steadily for 5 weeks. But I have read a lot of other material on enlightenment. Release date: Oct 30, 2010: Booking location: Leon County, FL: Booking location: I respect that he brought this to light. In my previous post, I poked a little bit at Lynn Bryson. by mudflap August 20th, 2021, 8:31 am, Post Personal revelation does not give anyone the right to direct others or to convince them that they were ordained by translated beings to bring them to the Church of the First born. Bagley, Will. 3/3 He has built a legacy that will endure for many generations to come and will continue to inform our country. I have not listened to all of his podcasts but I have to many and in my view his opinions are well within the scope of the gospel taught by Joseph and I am deeply troubled that someone could be expelled from the Church of Christ for teaching principals that bring us closer to him. Nature and the great outdoors remind us that difficult times pass. 64-73, National Audubon Society, as reproduced on the Morris K. Udall website section -- MS 325 -- of the University of Arizona Library Manuscript Collection, retrieved July 23, 2018. Towards the end of the Saviors earthly ministry, His disciples came to Him with several questions concerning the future: Tell us what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? Teachers of light simply do not use fear as a teaching method. Several people put together an open letter (a Google doc) citing new questionable teachings from his conference address onward. This to me is in direct opposition to living to truly love your neighbor and embodying Christ-like love in all our interactions with one another. There are tens of thousands of us all across the conservative movement. Fenerbahe Players 2020, Michael B. Jordan and Lori Harvey are saying goodbye to paradise. Where are they today? Michael B. Jordan stars in the movie based on Clancy's novel. Fear of deception is deception. Michael B Rush wrote this book as a study into The Lost 10 Tribes of Israel. $875,000 7701 Atlantic Ave #1d, Riesenfeld Ernest Asen Dennis P; 12/24/20. Rush has been a life long student of the scriptures. Podcast 05: Spending Sacred Holy Time With The Lord Jesus Christ, the frequency and abundance of messages from heaven have increased exponentially, She testified of how real and true the concept of modern revelation from the Lord to His prophet really is., Mike Stroud Has Been Excommunicated Latter-day Commentary Last Days Signs of the Times, End-Times Visionary Julie Rowe Excommunicated Wheat & Tares, Jana Riess: Chad Daybells strange end times beliefs are not Mormon theology, says historian .U.S.A.-News. If we are not entertaining Angels as Stroud and Denver Snuffer claim to and many ,many of my friends claim to, then as Moroni said it is because of our unbelief. by Trucker August 20th, 2021, 9:30 pm, Post I said, Who was it? She said, Why it was the Lord. I said, How do you know it was the Lord? She said, I just knew it was the Lord. And I said, Congratulations, youve had a Second Comforter experience. The doc follows the same format. See more of Michael B. To me, that is the difference. View and manage who you follow on Amazon. Its cool, Scoot. And thus again the hypocrisy. All throughout the Scriptures we have stories of mostly men, extraordinary men, who have extraordinary experiences with God. His friends call him that or simply "B." But trying to tell "B's" story isn't easy. What mightve gotten him in trouble this time? Instead they would take joy in the blessing of others and take equal joy in the blessing that God has given themselves. Refusing to accept a gift might be what you meant, and yes, that would be rude and there might be no more offer of gift. Wise teachers like Jesus would never tell us to be afraid because it would directly limit our ability to grow in faith and love. My response:. Michael passed away in December 2019. [Nope. . There has been a shift. Im not saying my hearing is better or more correct. or obey a temporary local leader? They could share them with others without the concern of generating feelings of separation and comparison. Ending priesthood ban, baby steps towards female equality, changing to youth interview questions, baby steps in changing of anti-gay rhetoric, making the garment easier, BYU Honor Code policy, recent temple changes, all the gospel topics essays, backing off slightly on the King Follett doctrine stuff, more GAs of color, more grace, etc. I hoped for the best but unfortunately it was shortly after that meeting when his accusers began to open fire. Conjectures and historical comments on others, however, simply left the question hanging. Many of you might be familiar with this guy, he's the guy who's been quite prolific about the Ezra's Eagle prophecy. Perry, James M., reporter, National Observer, "This Fella from Arizona", in Audubon, November 1981, pp. The church does not regulate claims per se (IMO) but rather who is authorized to speak for God. His original analysis has been studied by students of the scriptures inover 130 countries worldwide, and is included in his first book -, The Curious Case of My Technicolored Genenome, Revelation - The Vision of John the Divine, Chapter 19 - The Pre-mortal Legacy of the House of Israel, Dana Coverstone Dream - Think Ezra's Eagle, Sharyl Attkisson - Astroturf and the Manipulation of the Modern Narrative. It was just the two of us. Nor is it any different from what i have heard lots of G As teach over the last 60 years. So if Stroud was declared apostate for teaching questionable doctrine, those are the obvious trouble spots.[1]. He is not in a position to be receiving revelation for anyone other than himself, his family and those he had/has stewardship over. Copyright LastDaysTimeline.comAll Rights Reserved. We have heard only a few of Mikes podcasts encouraging personal revelation. Brother Strouds narrative is indeed lacking in much that might legitimize it. You can edit this text and also insert any element here. Rush. Are there saints among them? "Abundantly illustrated with frames and sequences, Video Art offers a history of the medium seen through the perspectives of its early practitioners - such as Bruce Nauman and Vito Acconci, who . On the other hand, there are also many in our faith who truly believe that the illusions of separation and comparison are a very real thing. And as the author rightly conceded he never actually used the term astral projection. He was born and raised in the Western United States, among the rugged Wasatch mountains, and the rural California coastline. It didnt end until some wiser and higher up authorities put a stop to it. That is what made Mike Stroud one of the most dangerous False teachers in the church. 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